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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;9&#8243; and the Legacy of Tim Burton</title>
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		<title>By: Kyle M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 15:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can second each and every one of those concerns regarding Alice in Wonderland (v 2.0).  I saw a trailer for the film recently and it just didn&#039;t sit well.  Is it possible to impose a divorce between Burton and Depp? It might do them both some good to see other people for a bit. *sigh*
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can second each and every one of those concerns regarding Alice in Wonderland (v 2.0).  I saw a trailer for the film recently and it just didn&#8217;t sit well.  Is it possible to impose a divorce between Burton and Depp? It might do them both some good to see other people for a bit. *sigh*</p>
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		<title>By: C.L. Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>C.L. Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 13:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a friend of mine so succinctly put it &quot;Depp and Burton need to get a divorce.&quot;
I&#039;m looking forward to 9.  It looks good, and like it might be more on the Nightmare Before Christmas end of the Burton spectrum.  I admit it, I&#039;m a sentimental soul and I prefer a happy, hopeful ending.
What I am NOT looking forward to is the retake on Alice in Wonderland with Depp as the Mad Hatter and in which we make Wonderland into a nightmare place straight out of the old Tom Petty video.  Now, what with a mad queen and a place that makes sense only if you can follow a truly weird logic flow (and the story itself is about the discipline of logic believe it or not) would seem a no-brainer, but I&#039;m worried about HOW Burton&#039;s going to do it.  I&#039;m really afraid it&#039;s going to be dark not for the sake of a good story but for the sake of being, well, dark (oooo...it&#039;s Dark!  It&#039;s EDGY!  It&#039;s COOOOOL). Gimme a break.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a friend of mine so succinctly put it &#8220;Depp and Burton need to get a divorce.&#8221;<br />
I&#8217;m looking forward to 9.  It looks good, and like it might be more on the Nightmare Before Christmas end of the Burton spectrum.  I admit it, I&#8217;m a sentimental soul and I prefer a happy, hopeful ending.<br />
What I am NOT looking forward to is the retake on Alice in Wonderland with Depp as the Mad Hatter and in which we make Wonderland into a nightmare place straight out of the old Tom Petty video.  Now, what with a mad queen and a place that makes sense only if you can follow a truly weird logic flow (and the story itself is about the discipline of logic believe it or not) would seem a no-brainer, but I&#8217;m worried about HOW Burton&#8217;s going to do it.  I&#8217;m really afraid it&#8217;s going to be dark not for the sake of a good story but for the sake of being, well, dark (oooo&#8230;it&#8217;s Dark!  It&#8217;s EDGY!  It&#8217;s COOOOOL). Gimme a break.</p>
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		<title>By: dpomerico</title>
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		<dc:creator>dpomerico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 18:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Listen--who am I to judge someone for liking or disliking a movie?
A blogger, that&#039;s who.
Seriously--I don&#039;t Burton necessarily does bad movies, I just find that he doesn&#039;t always do good ones.  And, more importantly, that this wasn&#039;t a good one.
And, trust me: I am a fan of &quot;bad&quot; movies--I can appreciate the campy appeal.  I just thought that, at least with the original Planet of the Apes movies, there was this subtle knowledge that they were making ridiculous films.  Here, it was clear they were trying to cash in on that--but failed.
By the way: there&#039;s an interesting interview with Tim Burton on Tor.com: &lt;a href=&quot;http://bit.ly/NtqbC&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/NtqbC&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Listen&#8211;who am I to judge someone for liking or disliking a movie?<br />
A blogger, that&#8217;s who.<br />
Seriously&#8211;I don&#8217;t Burton necessarily does bad movies, I just find that he doesn&#8217;t always do good ones.  And, more importantly, that this wasn&#8217;t a good one.<br />
And, trust me: I am a fan of &#8220;bad&#8221; movies&#8211;I can appreciate the campy appeal.  I just thought that, at least with the original Planet of the Apes movies, there was this subtle knowledge that they were making ridiculous films.  Here, it was clear they were trying to cash in on that&#8211;but failed.<br />
By the way: there&#8217;s an interesting interview with Tim Burton on Tor.com: <a href="http://bit.ly/NtqbC" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/NtqbC</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kyle M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 16:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha ha - Marky Mark! Oh, where were the Funky Bunch for that one? I would have enjoyed &lt;em&gt;that&lt;/em&gt; movie on a whole other level. Kinda.
I have no beef with the Planet of the Apes as done by Burton, but that might be because I wasn&#039;t a big fan of the original either. Just not a movie that gets to me as a viewer. So, it&#039;s cool by me. Not that I have any authority on the matter, but...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha ha &#8211; Marky Mark! Oh, where were the Funky Bunch for that one? I would have enjoyed <em>that</em> movie on a whole other level. Kinda.<br />
I have no beef with the Planet of the Apes as done by Burton, but that might be because I wasn&#8217;t a big fan of the original either. Just not a movie that gets to me as a viewer. So, it&#8217;s cool by me. Not that I have any authority on the matter, but&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: heartless_</title>
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		<dc:creator>heartless_</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 11:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it bad if I enjoyed Burton&#039;s Planet of the Apes?  Not great, but still enjoyable.  My only actor that I would have changed would of been Marky Mark Wahlberg.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it bad if I enjoyed Burton&#8217;s Planet of the Apes?  Not great, but still enjoyable.  My only actor that I would have changed would of been Marky Mark Wahlberg.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 14:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know.  Here&#039;s the thing, I had a chance (thanks, Netflix!) to watch both &lt;strong&gt;The Nightmare Before Christmas&lt;/strong&gt; and &lt;strong&gt;Coraline&lt;/strong&gt; over the Memorial Day weekend.  I was excited about this because I love animation and hadn&#039;t yet seen either of these films. My thoughts on &lt;strong&gt;Nightmare&lt;/strong&gt; are that, in it&#039;s time, I&#039;m sure it was masterful, and it&#039;s still pretty good, but I was struck with one thought after seeing it: we&#039;ve come a long way since the early 90&#039;s in animated/claymation/what-have-you filmmaking.
Then I made the mistake of watching Coraline soon thereafter.  I&#039;ll warn people away from doing that, as Coraline is a vastly superior film (my opinion here) in both visuals and storytelling. ALTHOUGH, since seeing &lt;strong&gt;Nightmare&lt;/strong&gt; I&#039;ve had the song, &quot;What&#039;s This?&quot; stuck in my head. And that&#039;s not all together unpleasant.
Anyway, I love your list here and can&#039;t nitpick it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know.  Here&#8217;s the thing, I had a chance (thanks, Netflix!) to watch both <strong>The Nightmare Before Christmas</strong> and <strong>Coraline</strong> over the Memorial Day weekend.  I was excited about this because I love animation and hadn&#8217;t yet seen either of these films. My thoughts on <strong>Nightmare</strong> are that, in it&#8217;s time, I&#8217;m sure it was masterful, and it&#8217;s still pretty good, but I was struck with one thought after seeing it: we&#8217;ve come a long way since the early 90&#8217;s in animated/claymation/what-have-you filmmaking.<br />
Then I made the mistake of watching Coraline soon thereafter.  I&#8217;ll warn people away from doing that, as Coraline is a vastly superior film (my opinion here) in both visuals and storytelling. ALTHOUGH, since seeing <strong>Nightmare</strong> I&#8217;ve had the song, &#8220;What&#8217;s This?&#8221; stuck in my head. And that&#8217;s not all together unpleasant.<br />
Anyway, I love your list here and can&#8217;t nitpick it.</p>
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