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No, no.
Jaime does not actually own a Valyrian steel sword. The blade he used to kill King Aerys is common castle-forged steel, gilded to match his golden armor. But he can certainly get hold of a Valyrian blade for the fight — Widow’s Wail, the twin to Oathkeeper, both made when his father had Ice melted down and reforged. Widow’s Wail went to Joffrey, but we all know how that turned out. Now it belongs to Tommen, but the kid’s not old enough to use it.
A sword is not enough, though. This duel is life and death. Jaime is not likely to prance into that clearing smiling and clad only in cloth. He’ll armor himself before the match. His gilded plate-and-mail (this is not a fit occasion for the white of the Kingsguard), a crimson cloak, and a shield strapped to his right arm and emblazoned with the lion of Lannister. And of course he will have a helm. Knights who enter battle without one are soon dead. He can smile at Hermione before the match, then lower his visor. The helm, of course, would be fashioned in the shape of a maned lion. (Oddly enough, the Lannister arms look a lot like those of Gryffindor, which might give Hermione a moment’s pause).
He’s not going to waste time and effort swatting at birds with his sword, either. He’s encased in gilded steel. What are they going to do, crap on him? He’ll rush right through the birds, and go straight for Hermione. A sword is not a knight’s only weapon. While she’s watching the blade, he will slam his shield right into her face, knock her off her feet. Let her try and mumble those spells with a mouthful of broken teeth.
And if somehow Granger does get off that spell (cheating, really) and turn him upside down, Jaime is more likely to undo the straps on his shield and fling it at her head then to hang there meekly waiting to die.
But hey, let’s say everything goes the way your “experts” say it will, and Hermione wins. Sad to say, she will not live long to enjoy her victory. Sometime very soon, when she least expects it, a “boy” she does not know will bump up against her in the corridors of Hogwarts… and suddenly she’ll find a dagger sliding through her ribs, right into her heart. “A Lannister always pays his debts,” Tyrion will say, as he slips back into the shadows.
Hermione had prepped even harder for this battle than she had for her O.W.L.s, and in much the same fashion–by hitting the library. She had read d’Artagnan’s Duelling for Dunces, and knew Montoya’s The Soul of a Swordsman by heart. And even though it meant learning a little Valyrian, she had memorized all of the properties of Valyrian steel. The magic that coursed within the Kingslayer’s sword would repel expelliarmus, cut through a shield charm, and rebound a blasting curse upon its caster.
And yet she was unprepared for the moment in which the golden-haired warrior strode into the clearing in the Forbidden Forest. How could she ever have swooned over Gilderoy Lockhart? Jaime’s blond hair shone even in the darkness. And his green eyes, so like the sea after a storm… For a moment, she couldn’t remember quite what she had planned to do.
Her hesitation gave Jaime just enough time to unsheathe his sword. Jaime knew he should not underestimate this little wench, with her bushy brown hair and largish front teeth, so unlike his sweet sister. He would have one shot, no easy task with his still unpracticed left hand, his useless golden right. But one quick slash would even the score.
He would take her right hand, in which she gripped that infernal wand.
Gather, Hermione, gather, she said to herself, and cried “Confundus!” just as Jaime swung his sword. The Kingslayer was not so easily confounded as that McLaggen creep, however; he did not lose his footing, nor his grip on his sword. Jaime moved into his next attack with the preternatural quickness of a Dementor, but Hermione’s avis charm proved faster. A flock of birds circled Jaime’s head and threw off his aim. But with one mercilessly accurate slash he neatly sliced through all of them and their little corpses fell to the ground.
Jaime felt a thrill of pride and power as he brought his sword back for the killing blow. And for a moment, he was sure he had her–
–But then the world suddenly turned upside down.
Hermione had to admit that Jaime was markedly less glamorous dangling upside down, his sword waving around uselessly, the victim of a Levicorpus charm. In fact, she could not quite find it within herself to finish him off. She saw in his eyes such a look of torment and sorrow that she realized how deeply misunderstood he was, how he had suffered…
Later Jaime would not even remember hearing the little witch cry “Obliviate!” But he had just one moment of consciousness–one moment, as the painful memories of his glorious past, of losing his hand, of Cersei’s face, slipped away–in which to whisper “Thank you.”
Predicted Winner: Hermione Granger (Five points to Gryffindor!)
(Jaime Lannister is a character from George R. R. Martin’s A Song of Ice and Fire series; Hermione Granger is a character from J. K. Rowling’s Harry Potter series.)
Hermione will fight fairly. Jaime won’t. Win to the Kingslayer, becuase he will have an archer in the crowd waiting to kill the witch if things get too tight.
Nice try Sir Martin, but Tyrion ain’t part of the battle. That would be a more interesting match. As it is- magic against a handicapped swordsman? Anyone who thinks Jaime will kill Hermione before she gets a spell off should re-read HP and Feast. And is Jaime really going to shield against non-verbal spells that can’t see coming with a shield hanging from his handless right arm? The polls are a good representation of which kind of fantasy readers visit this website, not who will win this duel. MAGIC vs. CRIPPLE.
This match will go down in the books of legend. Under any other circumstances, I would put my money on The Kingslayer’s sword, but I’ve “seen” what Hermione Granger can do with her magic. Therefore, I will put my faith in her mind over Jamie’s body.
“You said to us once before,” said Hermione quietly, “that there was time to turn back if we wanted to. We’ve had time, haven’t we?” – Hermione Granger, kicking butt and taking names.
Oh, please.
I know A Song of Ice and Fire is far better written than Harry Potter. But the comments here are being absolutely either ignorant or stupid. Hermione is one of Rowling’s best characters, and one of the most powerful witches her age. She’s not going to “stumble and stutter and swoon” over Jaime Lannister, she had a crush at age thirteen and got over it. This is 17-18 year old Hermione, and she’s well ready to kill Jaime. She can do it. Specially, she has the ability to do it easily. So, if you’re going to say “Jaime wins because Hermione doesn’t kill”, or “Jaime wins using trickery, because Jaime comes from a place of such inmense meanness that Hermione can’t conceive it”, now THOSE are good reasons.
In terms of power, Hermione owns Jaime. In terms of meanness and trickery, Jaime owns Hermione in so many orders of magnitude that just thinking of it made me run out of zeros. But Hermione is a powerful character on her own, so, much as I love A Song of Ice and Fire, do not belittle Hermione. She’s a good character (at least until fanfiction book 6). Whatever: if it’s about power, again, Hermione would kill Jaime. Problem is, she has to want to. And we aren’t given any reason for it.
In Hermione’s case, this doesn’t work without a context. Hermione would never fight to the death. Jaime will kill her without hesitation if he needs to. But, what does she know about him? If she knows he’s a traitor and five-year-olds murderer, she will probably stun him on sight and call the dementors or police. She wouldn’t try to kill him, she’d incapacitate him. And that she can do.
If Jaime uses guile and trickery? “Hello, little girl, I just saw myself in this weird new place, do you know where’s the exit?” If it’s that way, Hermione loses without a doubt, she’ll be dead before she knows. However, why would Jaime know he is in a to-death fight and she not know it? In an equal situation, she has lots of chances.
Another question, and of the UTMOST importance is… at what distance of each other do they start? If you give me two meters, Hermione’s dead. If you give me five meters, Jaime’s stunned and transformed into a frog.
Another question… I don’t think Jaime would kill Hermione either. What does he gain by that. He’s actually sort of nice with strangers such as Pia when he gains nothing with their deaths. I see him killing her quickly if he saw a reason to it, but where’s the reason there?
The only reason I see for Jaime to kill Hermione is to actually put him in a cage and not let him get out until he kills or is killed. In those conditions “we throw you both there and the survivor gets out”, then it’s Jaime all the way. He would say “Let’s not play their rules and try to find a way out together”. That’s logical, she would agree, and she’d be dead, fast and quick.
If you give her a chance (five metres distance from Jaime) and a reason, she owns him. If not, he will win, but not out of being a better warrior, but out of coming from a mean, cynic cruel world where ethics is the name of an an exotic dish. Hermione can beat Jaime in power. She can’t beat him in cunning.
Those who keep referring to Rand as Mary al’Sue or Gary Stu, etc. obviously have no idea what a Mary Sue actually is.
It has become a word that everyone throws around ad naseum at a character they think is overpowered or they do not enjoy reading, which is pretty dumb.
Brain > brawn.
True, I don’t have any reason to view Rand al’Thor as a self-insert. I mean my bitterness over the series doesn’t require exaggeration and lies.
It’s honestly quite enough that the second half or so of the series is thousands of pages of an old man’s sexual lesbian fantasies, absolutely poor experiences with women and young people, and ABSOLUTELY NOTHING HAPPENING WAY MORE THAN SHOULD BE AT ALL POSSIBLE CONSIDERING IT’S GODDAMN GLOBAL CHAOS! Nynaeve tugged her braid.
HEAR ME ROAR!
As said before, I enjoy both. But the reason I gave for Jaime winning was flawed.
Looking over the arguments, I can’t help but agree that yes, at that range, in this situation, Granger would win the fight. However, looking over all the other possibilities out there, not all the fighters are just thrown into an open field to battle it out. It seems more like a mission, a job, and that is why Jaime would win.
Both have their own strengths, their own weaknesses, but who is best when it comes to manipulating the situation? Who will be able to goad the other into a situation where they would be at a disadvantage?
That requires intelligence, it requires cunning, and while Granger has the former in spades Jaime has enough of both to take full control of almost any series that isn’t ASOIAF.
That is why he’ll win. In the end the most vital part of this battle is picking where to fight, on manipulating the other person into doing what you want so that they come to your choice. And when it comes to that I can’t see anyone beating Jaime.
Jaime Lannister obviously!
First of all, while Hermione is very smart, her fighting skills are nothing compared to that of Jaime Lannisters.
Also, she would be against fighting anything for sport!
Hermione has a very narrow window to win this battle, a couple of seconds. In that time she needs to overcome her natural aversion to killing another human being, calling to mind whatever spell she wants to use (and whether she’s willing to cast an unforgivable spell), get the spell off and actually make it hit home (from the movies, wizards seem to have roughly the same accuracy as an Imperial Stormtrooper).
Meanwhile, all Jaime has to do is charge a teenage girl and slice her head off. I’m thinking before Hermione thinks her way out of the moral dilemma of casting an unforgiveable, Lannister’s already lopped her head off and is on his way for drinks with Luna Lovegood.
Hermione win? Not likely. Jaime will seduce her, and all thoughts of combat or a certain clumsy redhead boy will flee from her concious mind. Game Over.
Meh, spells in the Hogwarts universe are dodgeable, and blockable (with the exception of avada, which I don’t see Hermione using). If Jaime’s fighting with a sword+shield combo he could probably deal with it. Also, Hermione has a huge soft spot for blond hotties, which Jaime is, even if he’s missing a hand.
If it comes down to magic vs. physical fight, I have a feeling that Jaime’s experience would trump Hermione’s magical powers. Jaime would be trying to fight close quarters, in which Hermione would be at a huge disadvantage. A simple disarm would completely put her out of commission.
Yep, I am a huge nerd.
what could a tiny wand do against the killer smile? hmmm.. good luck Hermione!
This will be known as the fight that almost happend.
Apaprantly as the fight is about to start a bunch of Freys will come up behind hermione and stab her in the back 553 times. Her head wil get sown to a griffon and sent back to hogwarts will a singer will be there waiting playing “the rains of castamere”
jaime moves on to the second round…without lifting his sword in typical martin fashion
Okay, seriously, the Jaime seducing Hermione arguments need to stop. That’s just so not Jaime’s style. He’s ruthless, I know it, and he might question her about how she feels about attacking a cripple or some other maniupulation tactic, but my gosh, when in the series has Jaime ever tried seducing anyone other than Cersei? And not in a mocking way like with Catelyn.
That aside, I still say Jaime has this one. He can dodge all those paralysis spells everyone keeps talking about, and once he gets close (assuming they didn’t start out close), then it’s over.
order and cHaos
-I think that Feast of Crows Jaime won´t attack a young girl, and Hermione won´t begin a fight against a chivalric knight.
Both will speak and analyze the situation, and after think about it they will know that their only chance in the next combat it´s to be together as a team against Cthulu.
Hermione doesn`t stand a chance, really. Jaime`s aura of pure awesome will be too much for her to handle and she`ll just explode.
It`s Jaime friggin` Lannister. His magnificence is just too overwhelming for someone who is not from Westeross.
“You’ll want your child, I expect. I’ll send him to you when he’s born. With a trebuchet.”
I think he will, even if he wonders whether he should have later. But that’s just me.
I appreciate that were all huge nerds here and debating on that actual feasibility of spell versus sword and god versus wizard so on and so forth… Remember at the end of the day this is FANTASY which means anything is possible. Vote the way you want the fight to go… otherwise the entire bracket is a sham because as well know it’s going to be shrike vs cthulu or shrike versus Aslan… Where is the fun in that??? I say Jaime Lannister the “Godslayer”… down with Cthulu!!!
I’m already thinking about the next match hahahaha
Just curious, since I read through many posts and didn’t see it listed.
It is typically accepted in the fantasy industry that exceedingly powerful knights and warriors develop a resistance to magic and cantrips over time. Being that Jaime is one of, if not the, most skilled and experienced swordsman in his cannon, I think that he would be able to block out all of Hermione’s lesser enchantments, and some to most of her more powerful ones.
Keep in mind that in fantasy, knights and warriors outside the realm of spells are still powerful, prevalent, and capable of killing their magical counterparts. If a fight between a caster and a melee character were always as simple as, “The caster makes the warrior die”, there would never be any question about such a fight.
I would think that Jaime would be a match for nearly any human foe in this entire bracket. Unfortunately he’s going to face a gigantic monster in his next battle. Even with his good arm grown back, I don’t like his odds. But then again, he’s a realistic character, which is what makes him so much more entertaining and thought-provoking to read about in a novel.
hey, hey
don´t you know the things that Jaime would do for love? We all have already seen it!!!
COME ON! Hope Hermione have a wolf or another animal that cries for her (and her fall) at the end of the chapter. Jaime doesn´t need a sword, what the hell: He just needs a balcony, and just one hand.
This is all meaningless drivel as far as I’m concerned. 2nd Round Vs Cthulhu. Nuff Said.
This is all about fan base fervor. GRRM’s got it and we’ll vote Jaime through no matter what.
Jaime can’t be beaten by a little winch, he could beat her with that left hand tied behind his back.
And that’s the end of that chapter!
Thanks for all the comments and votes.
Make sure to check out Jaime’s next match, going on now, versus Cthulhu:
http://wp.suvudu.com/2010/03/cage-match-2010-round-2-2-cthulhu-versus-15-jaime-lannister.html