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	<title>Comments on: Your 2011 Cage Match Contenders [VIDEO]</title>
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		<title>By: Curios</title>
		<link>http://suvudu.com/2011/03/your-2011-cage-match-contenders-video.html/comment-page-3#comment-33468</link>
		<dc:creator>Curios</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 19:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How come there was never a Championship match between Quick Bee vs  Rand Al’Thor?  How come there has not been another villains cage match tournament?</description>
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		<title>By: Furrymoose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Furrymoose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Sep 2011 02:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah. I am sorry to see that I missed this year&#039;s cage match. The 2010 match was truly a pleasure and I am proud I shared a part in it. I am planning on taking part in the next, though! However, I do want to know why some of my favorites were not entered this year. Is a whole new cast chosen every year? I do miss seeing Rand Al&#039;Thor and Kvothe in there, as I am sure they would have done quite well. Aslan as well. I do hope they will be in the next one, but I am sure it will be enjoyable even without their presence!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah. I am sorry to see that I missed this year&#8217;s cage match. The 2010 match was truly a pleasure and I am proud I shared a part in it. I am planning on taking part in the next, though! However, I do want to know why some of my favorites were not entered this year. Is a whole new cast chosen every year? I do miss seeing Rand Al&#8217;Thor and Kvothe in there, as I am sure they would have done quite well. Aslan as well. I do hope they will be in the next one, but I am sure it will be enjoyable even without their presence!</p>
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		<title>By: Terracapri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terracapri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 May 2011 07:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to see Wizzard rincewind from discworld take on some serious magickers :D</description>
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		<title>By: Elanya Rodillia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elanya Rodillia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Apr 2011 07:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Rune - Perrin couldn&#039;t fight this in Tel&#039;aran&#039;rhiod unless the person he was fighting against also had access, or the match was already set there. He can&#039;t channel, so he can&#039;t force or take others into the wolf dream with him. He also can&#039;t get there physically, so he has to go to sleep to enter it. If he tried that, his body would be asleep and he&#039;d be an easy target.

As for the the final match, I have to say I don&#039;t see how Vin could beat Quick Ben. I&#039;ve been a fan of WoT for the last 15 years, and I&#039;ve recently really started to enjoy Sanderson&#039;s works, but Vin is too young and too straight forward in her thinking to be able to defeat Ben Adaephon Delat. He&#039;s a High Mage with more years of experience practicing his craft than Vin has been alive. I can easily see him being smart enough to outlast any supply of atium Vin would have, and once that&#039;s gone she&#039;s very little threat. Besides, atium shows the actions of a person - how they will move - and I don&#039;t think that it would necessarily give her the ability to anticipate his magic.

I think Rand vs Quick Ben would be an interesting match. I&#039;d have to think for awhile about that one before I could decide who would win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Rune &#8211; Perrin couldn&#8217;t fight this in Tel&#8217;aran&#8217;rhiod unless the person he was fighting against also had access, or the match was already set there. He can&#8217;t channel, so he can&#8217;t force or take others into the wolf dream with him. He also can&#8217;t get there physically, so he has to go to sleep to enter it. If he tried that, his body would be asleep and he&#8217;d be an easy target.</p>
<p>As for the the final match, I have to say I don&#8217;t see how Vin could beat Quick Ben. I&#8217;ve been a fan of WoT for the last 15 years, and I&#8217;ve recently really started to enjoy Sanderson&#8217;s works, but Vin is too young and too straight forward in her thinking to be able to defeat Ben Adaephon Delat. He&#8217;s a High Mage with more years of experience practicing his craft than Vin has been alive. I can easily see him being smart enough to outlast any supply of atium Vin would have, and once that&#8217;s gone she&#8217;s very little threat. Besides, atium shows the actions of a person &#8211; how they will move &#8211; and I don&#8217;t think that it would necessarily give her the ability to anticipate his magic.</p>
<p>I think Rand vs Quick Ben would be an interesting match. I&#8217;d have to think for awhile about that one before I could decide who would win.</p>
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		<title>By: Nafro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nafro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2011 03:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lasse,

Dues Ex machina in WoT?  You gotta be kidding me.  You must be the type that has to hate on something just because it is extremely popular.  I bet  you love Malazan and Erickson&#039;s ridiculously horrible, borderline unreadable sentence structure.  It must mean its much more refined.  But I have to agree, Perrin is a total wimp.  Vin owns this one.</description>
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<p>Dues Ex machina in WoT?  You gotta be kidding me.  You must be the type that has to hate on something just because it is extremely popular.  I bet  you love Malazan and Erickson&#8217;s ridiculously horrible, borderline unreadable sentence structure.  It must mean its much more refined.  But I have to agree, Perrin is a total wimp.  Vin owns this one.</p>
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		<title>By: S4m</title>
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		<dc:creator>S4m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2011 06:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can someone finally update the bracket for the finals??????</description>
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		<title>By: Nate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2011 16:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have GOT to be kidding me! Druss defeated in the first match? Jesus, people, how did that happen?

*shakes head in despair*</description>
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<p>*shakes head in despair*</p>
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		<title>By: Lasse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lasse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2011 12:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please Suvudu, next year leave off any characters from A Song of Ice and Fire and Wheel of Time. You can clearly see that it doesn&#039;t matter how far down the ranks you go, none of these characters can lose. With the Martin characters, I attribute the fan loyalty to the great skill with which the characters have been developed by the author. The ridiculous victories of the characters from Wheel of Time can be attributed to the deus ex machina nonsense that occurs every time they are faced with legitimate peril (which actually means that they are never faced with legitimate peril). The magic system in WoT is, to a certain extent, childish. It is very reminiscent of the games we played when young, wherein we were always saved at the last minute by an ability or trick created on the spot and never mentioned before. Great fun for children, not so much for the adult storyline of an epic fantasy series ... or a cage match!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please Suvudu, next year leave off any characters from A Song of Ice and Fire and Wheel of Time. You can clearly see that it doesn&#8217;t matter how far down the ranks you go, none of these characters can lose. With the Martin characters, I attribute the fan loyalty to the great skill with which the characters have been developed by the author. The ridiculous victories of the characters from Wheel of Time can be attributed to the deus ex machina nonsense that occurs every time they are faced with legitimate peril (which actually means that they are never faced with legitimate peril). The magic system in WoT is, to a certain extent, childish. It is very reminiscent of the games we played when young, wherein we were always saved at the last minute by an ability or trick created on the spot and never mentioned before. Great fun for children, not so much for the adult storyline of an epic fantasy series &#8230; or a cage match!</p>
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		<title>By: Rune</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rune</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2011 07:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A thing that has been bugging me.

I&#039;m a huge WoT fan (and ditto aSoIaF), It seems they have booth beaten odds they shouldn&#039;t have (i.e. Beowulf and Paul Atreidis), an I must say that I&#039;m shocked that they have come this far, I don&#039;t see any of them winning (even though it would have been so funny with Perrin being able to talk to Ghost and all that - could have made for an interesting match).
But the people here at suvudu are missing an important point about Perrin. He is able to walk in the-wolf-dream. A place where he would be pretty much able to wipe the floor with any of the contestants (maybe even with last years winner), and is it so weird if he was fighting for his life that he would try to fight the battle in Tel&#039;aran&#039;rhiod?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A thing that has been bugging me.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a huge WoT fan (and ditto aSoIaF), It seems they have booth beaten odds they shouldn&#8217;t have (i.e. Beowulf and Paul Atreidis), an I must say that I&#8217;m shocked that they have come this far, I don&#8217;t see any of them winning (even though it would have been so funny with Perrin being able to talk to Ghost and all that &#8211; could have made for an interesting match).<br />
But the people here at suvudu are missing an important point about Perrin. He is able to walk in the-wolf-dream. A place where he would be pretty much able to wipe the floor with any of the contestants (maybe even with last years winner), and is it so weird if he was fighting for his life that he would try to fight the battle in Tel&#8217;aran&#8217;rhiod?</p>
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		<title>By: Demon In Me</title>
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		<dc:creator>Demon In Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2011 05:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Next year I&#039;d like to see Jaenelle or Daemon Sadi from Anne Bishop&#039;s Black Jewels Trilogy. However, if the final match-up ends up being Vin vs Perrin, and they allow another WoT/Sanderson character next year, I will be boycotting this cage match until it makes more ....sense.

Now, this is an excellent idea, but the Suvudu team has executed it horribly. The current match-ups are a mix and mash of weight classes, with heavy-weights fighting lightweights fighting mixed martial artists. In addition, many of the write-ups seem to have been done by someone who has a strong bias or has read one/or neither of the series involved. 

The fact is, the Cage Matches are currently neither a popularity contest or a contest based on a logical analysis of the facts. If it&#039;s a popularity contest, start taking out the winners for a year, because it&#039;s boring and annoying to have Sanderson/Jordan win every year. And I like Sanderson&#039;s books. C&#039;mon, you have a good chance it will be Vin vs. Perrin in the finals! If it&#039;s a logical analysis of the facts, first off, have the writers read the books. Second, seperate them into a realistic grouping of characters. Third, very carefully lay out in the match what is and is not usable by the characters. 

That said, I don&#039;t think either will be done. At the very least, take out Sanderson/Jordan and maybe even Martin for a year. And for the record, I love Martin, and I enjoy Sanderson, but as it stands right now those three authors are dominating because of a previously established fanbase that dwarfs anything that any of the other authors have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Next year I&#8217;d like to see Jaenelle or Daemon Sadi from Anne Bishop&#8217;s Black Jewels Trilogy. However, if the final match-up ends up being Vin vs Perrin, and they allow another WoT/Sanderson character next year, I will be boycotting this cage match until it makes more &#8230;.sense.</p>
<p>Now, this is an excellent idea, but the Suvudu team has executed it horribly. The current match-ups are a mix and mash of weight classes, with heavy-weights fighting lightweights fighting mixed martial artists. In addition, many of the write-ups seem to have been done by someone who has a strong bias or has read one/or neither of the series involved. </p>
<p>The fact is, the Cage Matches are currently neither a popularity contest or a contest based on a logical analysis of the facts. If it&#8217;s a popularity contest, start taking out the winners for a year, because it&#8217;s boring and annoying to have Sanderson/Jordan win every year. And I like Sanderson&#8217;s books. C&#8217;mon, you have a good chance it will be Vin vs. Perrin in the finals! If it&#8217;s a logical analysis of the facts, first off, have the writers read the books. Second, seperate them into a realistic grouping of characters. Third, very carefully lay out in the match what is and is not usable by the characters. </p>
<p>That said, I don&#8217;t think either will be done. At the very least, take out Sanderson/Jordan and maybe even Martin for a year. And for the record, I love Martin, and I enjoy Sanderson, but as it stands right now those three authors are dominating because of a previously established fanbase that dwarfs anything that any of the other authors have.</p>
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